I was 16 yrs. old and elk hunting, I seen a spike bull about 75 yrds away, I raised my 30-30 rifle and aimed (open sights) and fired at his shoulder, he ran a little ways and then stopped and looked at me, this time I aimed at his neck and he just dropped. upon cutting the elk up my first shot went into the shoulder blade about an inch. Now I only archery hunt for elk and absolutely will not take a neck shot, I don't care if its 2 feet in front of me...Only broadside shot for me/archery!!