I know you know Arthur... and yes it's OK to be a pain in the butt and say I told you so. JimPic doesn't know. Jim Pic... I started with recurves 34 years ago and took several deer with them so it's not all new, just like a boil festering. When it finally comes to the surface you get relief. When I started we didn't have the population overloads and you did well to get one in a year. I got two a couple years and was thinkin' I was hot stuff. Now in a lot of areas if a guy gets two with a compound he feels like he's had a bad year.