Your right hhmag no offense taken here. We give our people the best hunt they can have. I may be in the wrong in most people eyes for charging a fee for an elk in the class range it would take them 10yrs to draw in a trophy unit. In truth this is our first year to charge this fee and its all about trial and error. Maybe this is an error. We actually thought it would be more incentive for clients vs. going with outfitters that runs tons of hunters without much success. I don't mind the reply's it has definitly had an impact on my ethics issues on trophy fees. And in most cases what the people are saying is true.