Went to the pro shop yesterday between my 800 mile flight and 350 mile drive. I tried the Cybertec and the Havoctec and I was very unimpressed. I also shot a 28" and 29" Q2XL, and a 28" SQ2. No bowtechs at the shop though. The havoctec and the cybertec IMO, sucked. Sorry Hoyt fans, but I couldn't believe the hand shock that I felt in both bows. I had 4 bows out at one time, shooting one, then the next. The cybertec was the better of the 2 hoyts, but I shot that, then the SQ2 right after, and the SQ2 was definately short and sweet. All bows were set up the same... NAP1000 rest, string silencers, no sights, no peep, no stabilizer, no limbsavers. The SQ2 had barely any recoil. Unbelievable. That is a trick little bow. It had a 28" draw and felt pretty good, considering I'm shooting a 27" now. I tried both a 28 and 29" draw on the Q2XL, and the 29" felt perfect, with the 28" being okay. I could easily notice the speed difference between the two 65# bows. (same arrows)

I talked to the owner about the big show since he went to it and asked him about the Mathews bow blowing up. He said that a guy dry fired the bow and the string broke on it. He's heard the blown out of proportion stories as well, and blamed it on internet rumors.

At least I can honostly say I gave Hoyts a fair try now. I don't see what Frank and Rob get out of them, but if it works for em, hey, go for it. If bowtech doesn't pan out to my expectations, I think I'm going to pick up an SQ2 and hang on to the Q2XL so I have a bow for every application of hunting. I swapped cams with a guy online for a 29" cam, and hopefully that'll be in next week. The dealer said he wasn't overly impressed with the Legacy or Icon or the Bowtech Patriot. His pick is still the Q2. He did say that the string suppressors worked well though. Guess I'll have to shoot em myself and find out for sure.

Is there an easier way to take the locks off the pin to remove the cam on the Q2's? I had a heck of a time, breaking two fingernails back pretty deep, scratching the limb camo a little and ended up having to pound the lock washer straight again. Glad I only had to take one off to get that pin out! I'll probably put a new one on since the old one has been tweeked.