i just read all of the posts on this subject and it was alot of reading. doug and illback, i have to say well done on a very hot debate. i also hunt in clearfield. been hunting there for about 20 years. and the deer numbers are WAY down from years past. doug i think you hit the nail on the head with your posts. maybe i have an idea that most hunters should at lease listen to. some people may remember when you chould only kill one deer per year. that is how i hunt. if i get a buck .i will let the does walk. maybe the hunters should slow down a little, thats all im saying. for a yr or 2. your thoughts.