Silentassassin, I understand and agree with everything you posted, but I still get sick and tired of the "management buck" garbage. So if I'm managing for a 200 class 12 pt, then every 5 year old 170 class 10 pt is a management buck. Where does the madness end.

Yes, they pull out 160's and up out of my area every year, but I don't expect to get one, they are very rare. And like you, I hunt places like IL, to increase my odds of a trophy, but I'm still sick and tired of this management buck bs. And truth be known, the ONLY people who use those tactics are hunting fenced deer, where you can control every variable. It's like these a$$holes are to "good" to actually try to hunt a 140 class 8pt, afterall, management bucks are stupid and easy kill, right.