The reason I suggested the 250 grain Shockwave with their own sabots is because my understanding was he wanted to try some loads to get started, and keep costs down while seeing how his rifle reacts to them. I also have had some loading problems with Hornady bullets depending on which sabot you try to use, so if he sticks with Thompson Center products for now, he should have a more enjoyable shooting experience. The first time I tried to load Hornady bullets down my Black Diamond, I must have had the wrong sabots, and actually broke my short starter sabot starting attachment.

I could not see the reason he would want to purchase two packs of bulk .452 diameter harvester black high pressure sabots and a box #100 count of .45 caliber 250 grain Hornady XTP's, and I have never been able to find the Hornady SST's in bulk prices. Do you know where I can get them in bulk without the sabots?

When he shoots the Shockwaves and decides they are accurate (as I am sure they will be) or not, he could make a more informed decision as to what he might want to try next or what he might want to stick with as a bullet/sabot combination.

One load he might want to try later is the XTP bullets. If he feels a hollow point projectile would be the best choice for deer hunting or target shooting he can later pick up some of them in bulk. I believe it is better to try a small amount of them and see whether the rifle is going to be accurate with them instead of buying them right away in bulk only to find that you are now stuck with plinkers.....