I'm sorry I missed that.I am not a member of the usp.Actually,I may be wrong but I think they're down to 3 members now.Alts goal for 3c is 14 dpsm.In Jan 03,the pgc had it listed at 29 dpsm.If you are willing to take your herd down to that level,do you honestly expest to see more and bigger bucks than ever before?If you're not willing to do that,it's hipocrytical to say you support Alt.I'd be willing to bet once you reached that goal,you wouldn't be satisfied.

Let me make myself a little more clear.I don't hate the pgc.I think they've generally done a good job.I also support some of the things Alt has done.I like concurrent seasons even though I thought that would be a disaster at first.I'm also in favor of ar but I have realistic expectations of the results.I also favor herd reductions to a point.I think we had far too many deer for far too long.Wyoming county and Susquehanna still have entirely too many.What I have a problem with is the way herd reductions are being implemented.The goal of this plan is to reduce deer numbers to more than half of the max carrying capacity.You and I know this won't happen everywhere because most landowners won't allow it.What cracks me up is these are the same guys giving Alt a big adda boy.They're not even following the plan for crying out loud.I will assure you this,herd reductions while necessary around here,have gone to far.It's mostly public land with unlimited access.Couple that with the biggest allocations in history and give all these rifle hunters two more weeks to kill their deer and you end up with far less deer.It isn't even the low deer numbers around here that upsets me.I kill a decent buck every year.It's the fact that Alt can stand up and lie about the herd not being reduced.He claimed and 8 percent reduction two years ago.The next year we followed up with the biggest kill in history.He can't even keep up with his own lies.*

The truth is,we needed a reduction in most places.However,most places can sustain more deer than Alt is willing to let live.Every dmu in the state except one has a deer density goal of 15 dfsm or less.Not every unit will hit this goal in the near future but the ones that do will see their hunting worse than ever before not better as Alt promised.*

If it seemed like I jumped on you I appologize.Like I said before,if I spent all my time up there I would think guys were crazy if they said they didn't see a deer all season.I would also be in favor of killing more doe and letting more bucks live.It just gets to me when I hear guys suggest to others that they should simply move.I have that luxury but it isn't that easy for most people.Not to mention,it shouldn't be necessary.*

Overall,I think AR will probably produce more bigger bucks in certain areas.I think Wyoming,Susquehanna and Bradford counties will all benefit because it will be hard to get the deer numbers down to the ridiculous goals Alt is shooting for.