I guess the black hawk is a really good bow. I just thought ther was better. I dont think i will get the alpine any more. It is between the mustang, the rage, and the black hawk now. I might get the black hawk with the bigger cam. It shoots 300 some feet per second. Pretty good bow for a kid. I diddnt know they sold bows with an option of different cams. My dad is buying the patriot with the those bigger cams. The bigger the cam the more speed.[&:]