Hey totoe, do you mind if I ask what choke and what ammo you are using? I just bought a kicks gobblin thunder for my 835, went out and shot it and I have to say that I am very dissappointed in the pattern I got, maybe 15 pellets in the head and neck at 40 yards using win. hv #5 shot. If you or anyone has any advice I would love to hear about it. THANKS ...TAW!