i heard the same thing about archery research----the only thing they dont make for there bows is the limbs----the risers they produce for bowtech.they are a solid company with great reviews,go to huntersfriend.com and check out there bow comparison chart----overall scores ar34 with cam and a half has the best score of most bows.especially on overall length of other bows.i am waiting for diamond archery to upgrade there web site to check out there new gladiator series