If you dont mind me askin, how were you loosin one out of two turkeys? Like, were they blowing through, or not cutting enough, or what was the deal. Im not arguing, just kinda curious. I know i used fixed blades with a stopper behind them, and besides the added weight, they didnt seem to do the right damage. The wide expandables allways worked pretty good, but, like you said, just personal experience. What expandables were you usin.