I agree with you 100 % these are my best groups. under ideal conditions. I have yet to have any game animal wait until I have set up a bench , sandbags etc. control my breathingand heart beat, site and squeeze off a shot. My point was that the BAR as a hunting rifle of big game surrenders very little in the way of accuracy to any hunting bolt rifle. I can't seem to get my pictures to post properly. If you want to see my target in the last post. right click on the red "x", highlight the entire url and copy it. then paste it into the address bar. that should work.