Exactly and just because you shoot a bow capable of killing deer at 80 yards doesn't mean you no longer try to get them close or that you automatically shoot at them when they get inside 80 yards. I don't know about the places that you hunt but most of the places that I hunt, I couldn't kill a deer at 40 yards with a gun much less a bow. In fact I was shooting baseball size groups at 50 yards this year and my farthest shot at a deer was about 18 yards. Oh wait a minute I think I see what you are talking about. I am perverting the sport with my high tech equipment and new fangled gizmos that are allowing me to kill deer out to 54..................feet[:-]

Yea, I know it's not hunting and no one gets enjoyment out of it unless it's traditional equipment and inside of 6 yards, I think I got it