Thanks for all the tips. The more I think about it, the more I believe the draw length may be a hair longer than it should be. It happens almost exclusively with clothing on, but I do clip my lower arm now and then. I suppose backing down the length a 1/4" to 1/2" may do the trick. I think this can be adjusted on the Patriot without the need for additional equipment.

I do have a 3:00 appointment today at Peak Performance for a paper tune and to get rid of these string sliencing squid that are already flying apart. I had considered removal of string silencers altogether so maybe between a slightly shorter draw length and the silencers the speed will remain the same?

As for arm guards for my baggy jacket, I read a tip on another board that women's pantyhose work well and can be left on the jacket arm. My wife graciously sacrificed one of her older pairs of black stockings last night and now I wear it "proudly" on my left arm. We'll see how this works before spending any more money.

PABowhntr..........where is this Sterner's you are referring to?

Thanks again,

Fritz