Ok, after reading these posts I went out and bought a 6" Stealth Stabilizer for my new Outback. The bow didn't have much kick to begin with, but once this new stabilizer was added, the bow just sits in your hand at release with no hand shock, whatsoever. Had an older model Doinker that I use on my MQ 1 on it at first. What a difference. Has to be the best stabilizer I've tried.