Vance,if say about 11's of beard and about 24lbs with 1 1/2 spurs comes cheap than I'll agree with ole Jimbo!!!!00Bogobble7...I like it!Lmao!!!I'm gonna make those northeast fellas cry when I tell them here in Calif the season opens pretty near a month before theres does,soes I guess its over for them before they even get started!!!Jimbo make sure the heaters on when I get there bud!!I'm feelin better!!!