I went on a Colorado private land cow elk hunt in 2003 with an outfittter who is a great guy. We hunted on his land and land he leases. I brought home a very nice cow. For the guys that live in an area that elk do, I sure understand why they won't pay an outfitter, but I live 800 miles away and needed his help. It was such a good time my dad and I are going this year. I'll give more info in a private message. Jim