Hey Matt... Thanks for your imput. It helps a lot and i will definitely consider your imput when I talk to him next. He was looking at the patriot as well but he wasnt too sure what he was looking for at the time. I have question for myself. Im shooting carbon Gold Tip arrows but i do not have broadheads yet. Ive seen reviews about different broadheads but nothing really helpful to me. Help me please. I do not know what i should shoot. Im shooting whitetail.