Thanks for the detailed reply Cargo. I'm leaning the heaviest toward the Patriot single right now. It seems to be the best compromise between raw speed and somewhat forgiving brace height. The only reason I would lean away from the Justice is because of the lower speeds. My current bow, with my draw length and such will match or exceed what the justice will do now. On equestion I had though, is the pivoting limb pockets that the Patriot has that much better than the fixed ones on the Extreme VFT? What is the advantage(s)? I don't necessarily mind the Patriot dually, but I'm really want 80% letoff and a solid wall. I'm not so sure that I can get the solid wall I'm looking for on the Dually, and it's only available in 65% letoff.

CBM, I meant the Legacy or the LX not the FX sorry. I don't think the Outback would be a good choice for me due to my draw length I would be concerned with severe string angle/pinch. It would be difficult to shoot a string loop with the release I use. I use a Winn free flight. I would be concerned if I had to get a speedy hookup on the loop with that release.

Thanks for the replies everyone. Keep them coming.

Wonder why I haven't heard anything out of the Hoyt guys yet?

Also suprised I haven't heard from Aussie Guy yet too.