GroundHunter: That twig is one of the reasons I was fairly adament about your lost dear. Low lite, distance shots, are at best risky. Here you have a perfect example. Len's an accomplished bow hunter and yet we know that he walked home with a tuft of hair and a shaved branch. He probably will mount that twig. It will be a constant reminder to him that one little twig cost him dearly and almost maimed a deer to boot. We have not heard the details about his miss but he does know that ethical,well placed shots is always the goal we should strive for. That is why he carried that twig away with him. Learn the lessons and we will all have more success. Len learned and davidmil knows his buddy learned. He kept his mouth quiet and that speaks knowledge.