Sorry Viper I guess I chose bad words, You named the shops I was thinking about. I also Shoot at Clarence Archery up near Snowshoe and Out at Black Eagle in Lamar in the Summer. Black Eagle has a very nice 3D range. I usually shoot Black Eagle, Clarence Archery, and Seven Points Sportsmens Club in Clarence for 3D in the summer. May be we could get together and shoot sometime. Muzzyman88 and I got together last week to shoot and had a good time, and plan on doing it again. Drop me an email or a PM if ya wanna shoot sometime.