I've been shooting the Gold Tip 22 series for 1 1/2 years and love them. Same speed I was getting with my ics's but with a fatter slightly stiffer shaft. Because of the larger diameter you can also use 5 inch vanes if you need a little more broadhead control. I've also brokken a couple extra lines on the 3-d targets because of the fatter shaft. They seem to be as durable as the ics's were for me and complete pass throughs on 2 deer and an elk with them makes me a pretty happy camper.