My local Merlin dealer shot the Max Extreme at the show and was impressed as well. He's currently shooting a Max 3000 that has all the typical siliencing doo-dads on it. He said the new Max Extreme (bare bow) was equal to the Max 3000 with everything on it. I can testify that the Max 3000 is very quiet and has little vibration. I'm looking forward to trying one myself.