hey slippery i know what u mean....according to everyone my set up and techniques are a little off...my euipment isn't top of the line but its what i can afford and i have got well over 20 big game animals in the 8 years i have been hunting. My best friends grandfather who has recently passed on would always tell us as kids when we were rifle hunting that "Any old club will do the job" His grandfather left him his old 30/30 lever action with open sights when he died. The stock had several little notches in it one for every moose the man had killed in his life with that gun. Now in rifle season my friend parks his 30/06 in the gun cabinet and takes out his grandfathers 30/30 to carry on the tradition. My friend understand he doesn't have the range with the 30/30 that he would have with the 30/06 but he goes back to words of wisdom that his grandfather left him..