Oh I almost forgot, we hunted deep in the ANF the first day of rifle season and didnt see a lot of deer. At the end of the first day of rifle season, the farmer who owns property adjacent to mine knocked on my camp door and told me that I and all my friends were welcome to hunt anywhere on his place and kill anything we could kill. (This farm right next to my camp in the ANF that has been posted for 20+ years and reserved for his family only to hunt during that time is now being overrun with deer.) The ANF boundary is less than a mile away. Hunters barely down the road p!ss and moan about no deer and he's seeing 60+ in his fields at night.