i think this is the best setup i have ever done. setup with a rise in front of me....have a caller behind me about 10 yards the turkey can't see you you can't see the turkey becuase of the rise......makes your hair stand up win that big gobbler gobbles just on the other side of that rise but you can't see him....then that big gobbler works in , pokes that big long neck over the rise to see whats going on and that is when you bust him.......all of your shot goes in the neck not the breast.....try it sometime .....