Oldelk, you know i love the 300WSM, but I can load a 165gr bull Tip in a 300Win Mag with RL22 to 3300fps. I don't know anyone that can acheive that with a WSM. Granted that is a gun with a long throat, and the bullistic tip is loaded well out there. It I sank it down to the recommended 3.34, it goes well past pressure according to the primers. Now this isn't my gun, but a guy in my clubs. I am not too happy loading it to where the primers are a tad flat, but he likes it and it is accurate.