that is what i said.
so the 20 yard pin gets me 20 yds & 10 yds
everything else I am just "guessing" - 15 yards isn't much of a stretch (however not thinking/getting a bit excited when I shot my 1st - only - buck i spined him at 15 yds)
the 30 yds is a different story - by guessing (i figured about 6"high), there is a lot of room for error (i don't think 8" is too awefull good) - that's why I wouldn't normally shoot 30 yds. - with a pin for 30, I hope to get those 8" groups much smaller and more consistent and have more confidence with the longer shot if it ever presents itself