I was so excited to try them this year. So I bought two box's in my browning gold. I would get a nice 2" group and then a flyer 3" away. Happened the entire two box's . Reason I was wanting them was to extend my range, but if my groups are not less than 2" why worry about shooting 150 yards? So I also tried the Winchester's super fast shells. Same thing. My gun doesn't like the super fast sabots or 3" mag coppersolids. Only like lightfields and 1oz 2 3/4" coppersolids. So I will stick with <100 yard shots.