trophyhuntr I have never been a real point counter when it comes to big bucks, to me it is mass, spread and hiegth. Don't get me wrong, the more points the better, but I have seen some 12 pointers that were far from being monsters, to be honest I haven't seen many 10 or 12 pointers that could hold a candle to the 8 pointer I killed in 74-75. There is a monsterous 6 point I would love to hang on my wall, he is WIDE, TALL and has a ton of mass.