i'll tell you what............i just started deer hunting right after thanksgiving '03'... i probably went to about 50 different sites........and to be honest with ya........this is the best site i have found........all the people here will help ya out with anything.................OH AND BY THE WAY...............THANKS EVERYONE...........but..........still no deer, i missed 2 with a crossbow so far....so. i'm getting close....lol