Jimbo, sorry it took so long for me to reply, the mount on my buck is the newest form Dan Chase has out, it has 4 more inch of shoulder on it , he just released this form on Nov 15th. My taxidermist had it on a flyer he received and I said let's do it, the form is the biggest looking mount I have ever seen and you must realize mine is on a 22inch neck. The head detail is excellent and I really like the detail of the muscle but I don't think a short haired- early season buck will look natural with all that extra. It has about the same look as a 6400 Mckenzie just better.