The problem in Oklahoma wasnt the herd, it was the hunters! I saw a whole bunch of deer, and missed a bunch, but the thing was no one could hit. Almost everyone i talked to said they saw the deer, they were jsut smarter. Allthough, at the one place we hunt in the north west part of the state, the farmer shot 16 deer last year with depradation permits, this year they shot 2, and only found one. It wasnt cause they didnt see them, there like flies, nobody could get to them though. Maybe there finally cathing on to us? :-)