Well one thing Alt id mention is that the deer they have collard, are doing what most hunters dont do. They r traveling more then a mile or two away from roads , and other civilization . he was saying that the hunters just arent going deep enough to see the deer. But what most hunters in PA dont realize , like the weekend warriors that may only get out once a year for first day of buck , is that with age comes wisdom , we dont have the stupid spikes to shoot at anymore , so the deer we do see when the time comes to put him down , they are alot smarter. Also i have noticed that even pushing deer isnt workin as well , they r laying tight , u have to step basically right on them. I like what he is doin to get our big buck here in PA, so far this year i have seen more wall hangers in PA jsut this season then my last 3 combined. Although this is my first year ofnot killing a buck , it just felt good seeing them.

The things needed here in PA would have to be :
1 sign over tags for doe.
2 more time to hunt , sundays , longer seasons possibly.
3 use of inlines in second season, that would get more guys out there.

At the meeting the farmers were complaining about how the deer jsut arent being killed in the numbers they would like to continue to support the PGC. But the PGC fired that the farmers werent giving them enough options on their land to give to the hunters for use. and the hunters threw in that we didnt get ample time for hunting , enough tags , and or firearms to use.