Just to let you know !I been using the Steelforce 100's for about 3 years now and I really like them .This season I tried the Crimson Talon's and I'm not impressed with them espeacially for the price I won't be buying any more .They flew well but couldn't take the punishment and they didn't stay sharp very long.So I went back to my ole reliable the Steelforce 100's

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