Yeah Dave,The first that I ever saw one was on Len's bow and Steves(Florida Hunter'S)when we hog hunted.They loved them.I hunted in the cold yesterday afternoon with my old NAP quick tune,and had military issue three finger wool mitts on,it was hard to keep my arrow on the old rest.I won't have to curl my index finger over my arrow anymore.Also the old rest cost me a cupple deer this season[:@].Bill D>