Pages back someone mentioned that folks had said that VFT is a lot like the Mathews long riser stuff. I watched the videos on Bowsite, and I have to say that it sounds exactly like the Mathews concept, which is hardly surprising given Bowtech's track record. The fact they may have taken it a few steps further than Mathews is just building on Mathews' base: A lot of people don't like the way this system looks and mathews has been breaking a trail for a while. Also Btech has been doing the same thing with its P38-40 bows. I don't know who first came up with the idea of a long riser short horizontal limbs. Drake compounds have looked like that (the limdbs part anyway) for years, though I don't recall anybody mentioned recoil as the reason, since in any even we didn't worry so much about that when bows shot heavy arrows at 200 fps.

I still think that Btech has some of the nicest looking bows this year. The BK2 is very interesting, can't believe (just an expresion)the velocity they are getting with this system, in a package which is pretty close to a target bow in length. What is the brace height now?

Also if we want to give credit where credit is due, at least Mathews and North american are offering bows which essentialy use the Saunder's string damping system. I have mentioned this option several times on this board, and how to make your own from a rear mounted stabilizer hole. I would certainly prefer to have it done OEM. There have been other bows that used something simmilar, but the string slammed into weighty pillars, and it looked high maintenance in some regards.

I like what I see from Bowtech. So far I think they have the most inovative line. Mathews has some inovative features also, It is much harder to evaluate from pictures what the benefit of a bow shooting a claimed 300 fps with a round cam is compared to one shooting 350 in the case of the BK2, but it may be a very effective package. In my case, what I need this year is a new hunting bow, so I am looking more in the Patriot's direction, or the Icon ? (is that the new Q2?). I also think the genesis stuff is important, the huntin/fishin model has a 30% let-off, didn't the kid's bow have zero? If this thing had a mechanicaly adjustible draw stop, it would be very important for beginers or folks who just don't care about the hyper technical approach.

What is the hot news from Hoyt? New variations on the tec risers don't impress me much. What am I missing?