jeff, matt, good luck... if you can convert frank you can change anyone. least thats how i see it. by the way my bk2 hits 101 ke. i could drop my arrow weight gain a few fps and loose a few lbs of ke. im shooting 145grn now. ill be working on ABMathews on my end when he comes back to town. speaking of jerry bring your bow back so you can try some carbons. ive got one thats too short for me to shoot.