its amazing you are completley ignoring the facts that are on this page that refute dnr policy with science. also think you are blind and have to have ties to dnr or you are one of the low lifes who enjoys nothing but the kill. I know a number of hunters and landowners in this area who are members they are not antis they are fighting the dnr policy of complete destruction of the deer herd by fools using unproven science. These people have over 100000 acres of land tied up in this program and are insulted by comments from someone like you[:@]. this site caids is run by a number of people and i am sorry to say barnes is one but the dnr has brought some weird groups together. also your second link shows that theses people are hunters and i have seen theses people on tv speaking of enjoying hunting. The caids site links to none of the above goups only hunting sites. but they do have links to caids. read the articles.