I forgot to mention my boy'still carry'n a 20.ga.,3".You gotta get em close.-Me? I'm toten a scoped 3",12ga.w./.465 choke. success?!? YOU wanna see my cigar box o beards? We'll see yu uns in the woods.BE SAEE & TAKE A NEIBORHOOD KID WITH YOU-START SOMETHING,WHEN YER OLD-MAYBE THEY'LL TAKE YU HUNT'N.THINKABOUT IT !!!