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Old 01-04-2004 | 01:33 PM
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Weasel,

First of all I was not trying to make fun of your name, and I regret that you got that impression. My point was that it was like being a "weasel" in my opinion (probably a better way to say it. Sorry)to imply that Scott had repressed sexual feelings that would lead to things such as child molestation if not dealt with. You did imply that, did you not? If not what were you trying to imply by even bringing that up?? Here's a guy (scott) who has some morals and ethics and you guys are slamming him left and right, but to imply he had sexual problems just because he didn't like the ad was over the line. And I'm not hiding behind ANYTHING.My name is James Lee. I live in Muskogee Oklahoma,and I have nothing to hide behind or from. Period.
What I don't understand is instead of agreeing with him, you tell him (& me) that we need mental help. Then you tell me to pull my head out of my "a--".
Then after all of that, you turn around and give me your Christian credentials. Sounds contradictory to me?.
The fact is I NEVER said this was porn, and I NEVER said it was "fellatio" or whatever. ALL I ever said, that I still believe, is that this was suggestive and inappropriate for a family sport. It baffles me that more of you don't see this.
My wife gets Victoria Secret catalogs all the time. They have very pretty models modeling the latest lingerie,etc.Most of them show a lot more skin ,too. BUT, they are trying to sell lingerie, not bows! And even in those catalogs, those women do not act like they are in the middle of intercourse. There is an obvious difference! Like someone else said, if you don't see the suggestive nature of this ad you need to get out more. There words , not mine.

So for the record, I just want to say that I NEVER said this was porn, I NEVER said it was "fellatio" . I have simply maintained that it is suggestive and inappropriate for this sport. Obviously some of you disagree and that's fine. This world would be pretty boring if we all agreed on everything.
I just don't see how you don't see it. Blows me away.

The issue, from the beginning, was whether this was appropriate for a bowhunting magazine and family sport. I have said "no" and I've told you why I feel that way. Simple as that. My intentions were to defend what was right, not attack anybody. I hope you can all see that. Otherwise I love a good debate and this has been a good one.

Brampton mike, How many times do I have to say this????? It's not the clothes she has on, per se, it's the suggestive pose and facial expression. Sure, there are a LOT of girls out there wearing less. Big Deal! It's NOT just the amount of clothing that is the issue here , it's the entire nature of the ad and the suggestion. And yes, there's a LOT of that kind of advertising out there, I know. It's not an issue what else is out there or what's on TV, the issue is "is this appropriate for our sport?". We need to focus on that, this is a bowhunting forum, right??
Can ANY of you guys that disagree even see or admit that this is a suggestive scene?? If it were not, the girl would be looking at the camera , standing up straight, and probably wearing more clothes, smiling for the camera. She would probably be holding the bow in one hand and the string in the other, instead of both hands wrapped around the handle( I'm thinking this may be what Scott sees as fellatio, I DON"T KNOW).When you guys take family pictures, do you look behind you and open your mouth that big?? I didn't think so. That's the difference.
GleninAZ, did I say you or anybody else was hellbound?? NO! It's not to me to judge your destiny, and I couldn't save you no matter how bad I wanted to, so don't lose sleep over it,ok?
Oh well, I've stated my stance on this and that's enough. You guys get the last word.
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