That night my brother in laws cronograph was not working right,but when they first arrived to his shop he was shooting them all then he narrowed them down to the PAT and Liberty(deciding on which one to shoot for the year). he was getting a reading of 8 to 10 fps difference continually. And that was with a 350 gr. arrow. I'll be going back next week to shoot the PAT w/my 3d arrows and hunting arrows to see what speed I would be getting. I'll shoot them both and I'll report back to see if it's really 8 to 10 fps.(the PAT and LIBERTY) . Even though he knows his stuff.

(KNIGHTS OF THE ROUND TABLE)