There is no short, sweet and to the point remark that you can give an anti that will in any way change their opinion. Sad but true. I once had a secretary who had a houseful of birds, cats, dogs, etc. ANY killing of an animal was the same as murdering a human being to her. After coming back from my hunt one year she overheard that I was having my deer head mounted by a taxidermist. She said ,"How would you like it if someone shot you and put your head up on the wall"? Now how do you respond to someone like that. I was paying her salary and I know she needed her job to pay bills and still was so outraged that she had to make that comment to her employer. I let it go. I would not terminate an employee for expressing a personal opinion(even though it was a very rude remark to her boss). My point is most anti's are so profoundly locked into their postion on this subject that mere facts do not equate with them. I think their position on this is as ingrained in them as ours is. Agree to disagree and then have a nice evening with your friends.