Yep sometimes its hard too i agree

I think you&BB are right i remember 1000 ft lbs of energy too i think.As a recomendation - seems high.
By the game& fish standards Here of 500 ft lbs at 100 yards too - is kinda low?
I think its all the same forALL big game too, from lill pronghorngoats, whitetails, mulies , elk , bears, moose , buffalo? 500kn? a 100 yards.
at 500/ at only100yds there wont be much left 200+yrds. Depends how /what yer hunting etc tho-
I could use a 30/30 barrel to for a contender& a nef single shot rifle too.
I need to get out& shoot more the ones i have lol
Winters suppose to be makin ammo time- suppose to be[&o] global warming too.