T-Roy, I've had a stainless No. 11 cap wolverine for 5/6 years and problem free. Someday Im going to upgrade to 209. American Hunter did a test of the 209 Wolverine and it lasted 1 hour under water and still shot, it was the winner of the muzzleloaders they tested. My dad just bought a blue Huntsman as a self test, inch high out of the box at 100, he didnt even adjust the sights. It's very good quality and very accurate. Probably the best gun for the price. He will either get another in stainless or a Buckwacka. I did a search for the Stag Horn on here for my dad, not to many comments. The CVA Eclipse and the Traditions Tracker 209 had good comments,accurate and satisfied owners. BUT, Knight and NEF will BE better quality. Good luck,,Ruffhunter