My wife has her new Patriot VFT and I've shot the Liberty. They are much the same bow with the exception being the cam and idler. Her Pat is only a 26 inch draw but it is as quiet as the Liberty in 29 inch draw, both bows are 60 pounders. The wife's Pat did an even 280 fps at 60/26 and a 300 grain arrow against the speed tag on the bow that said 277 fps. I'm sure in a 29 inch draw you'd feel the difference in the draw cycle on the Patriot, that Liberty almost draws it's self!!![8D]