To the "Ludites" who think that man is the cause of all "environmental problems", either real or imagined, I ask you to live like you expecting others to first, before demanding drastic changes of lives of others to suit you latest environmental whims.

Start by doing without your pickup or any vehicle powered by carbon based energy. Get rid of your heating/cooling powered by convenient gas, oil and electric energy. Do without wood products and products from mining and other activities you so strenuously object to. You have to get rid of your PC, electricity, running water, flush toilets, food that is raised and grown on modern farms. If your serious about trying to make others “do without“, because you think modern life is hurting the environment, then start living like you're demanding others to and get rid of your modern, conveniences and things that depend upon gas, petroleum, metals, wood, electricity, medicines, etc., etc.

Live like the "Ludites" you're trying to make the reset of the country and world live like for a few decades. Then come back and tell us after you grand "experiment" how life is in your utopian world, if you make it through.

Well guess what! The utopians of the 20th century ended up following the Marxist pied pipers who promised perfection into the prison camps and gulags and most of those millions neither came out alive.

Conservation in principal is a good thing. Most people support reasonable laws and efforts to prevent pollution and conserve resources. But beware of those who promise to "end all the world's environmental problems by handing controls over to unelected and unaccountable federal and international bodies" we have no control over. That’s a recipe for a far more terrible disaster.