if you were doing drives whats it matter if they were nocternal? find them wake them up and send them to the drivers......drives are now one of my choice methods of hunting when the deer arent moving..like now in the late flintlock season....youd be LUCKY to stand hunt and see a deer after 2 weeks of gunhunters and now the cold and snow.....so we drive......try to plan your drives out better.....have your posters posted where the deer are most likely to go like funnels and bottle necks and good escape routes where they would feel safe running from the drivers.....and plan the drivers routes so they go through every area deer hide our drivers yesterday almost kicked a deer before they got up.......do smaller areas that your group can handle....driving is a good way to see ALOT of deer.......good luck with the smokepoles......im getting ready to go do that same.....take out the flintlock and do drives with my friend and his family........yesterday we got 3 out before i left and one was a buck...the other 2 drivers saw it and shot it.....i had to go before they tracked it....cant wait for today........good luck