I had the same problem, my arrows blended in real well with their suroundings and I lost a few during practice and in the woods [:@] also had a hard time seeing shot placement. BUT NOW all three of my vanes are chatruse and so is my nock, and I didn't loose a arrow since. and talk about being able to see shot placement . I thought all that brite green might blow my cover at first, but I been checked out by both bucks & does and they hav'nt reacted any different as far as I could tell so I'am sticking with them [:-].